On Tuesday morning’s version of MSNBC’s Morning Joe, the previous Council on Overseas Relations president Richard Haass mentioned a chunk he printed in Overseas Affairs lately, titled “Redefining Success in Ukraine.”
Right here’s what occurred.
Richard Haass advised the hosts, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski, “The White House is managing two wars, but in both of them, I would say we’re increasingly at odds with our allies and partners. We just talked the previous hour about differences with Israel about how the war is being fought and about what comes after.”
Morning Joe admits the battle in Ukraine is unwinnable and it’s time to make a deal — positions they as soon as denounced as “appeasement” and “Putin talking points.” It’s wonderful how they will flip the script on a dime with none disgrace, acknowledgment or regret.pic.twitter.com/iVenqFCzEc
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From ‘Putin Talking Points’ to ‘How Much Longer Do We Continue Pushing?’
“In Ukraine, I think we’ve got a real problem where there’s simply an enormous gap between what the goals are of the policy and what the realities are.” Haass continued, “The idea that Ukraine is going to militarily liberate all the land that Russia occupies, approximately 20% of their territory, it’s laudable. I support it.”
“It’s just not going to happen,” Haass insisted.
Maintain on…
Wasn’t it just some brief weeks in the past when anybody who instructed that something lower than a complete victory for Ukraine over Russia – that perhaps either side ought to transfer towards peace negotiations – was merely parroting ‘Putin talking points?’
Joe Scarborough has definitely accused others of this.
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And but, right here’s Scarborough’s response to Haass:
And, Richard, the White Home, I imply, the Pentagon a yr in the past, in February, was saying just about the identical factor. I imply, we heard a few spring offensive. They have been very, very involved in February, in February of this yr, that these strains have been going to be frozen in place, very similar to world battle strains all through Europe. The query is, with wars on two fronts, how lengthy can we, how lengthy do our allies in Europe, who’ve all accomplished, I believe, collectively, NATO has accomplished a rare job, how for much longer can we proceed pushing I believe, what many individuals within the Pentagon would suppose is the unrealistic objective of Ukraine driving each final Russian out of their nation?
Wait, what?
Time and time once more – for years – Scarborough has accused anybody who was in opposition to U.S. funding Ukraine or merely saying that nation couldn’t win, of being a Russian sympathizer.
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Now he activates a dime? As a result of America now has Israel to fret about?
Unbelievable.
#MorningJoe rails in opposition to Republicans ‘repeating Putin talking points’ https://t.co/5AGzI2HuK0 pic.twitter.com/Yz6wtMG1pD
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Haass Admits its Time to Pack It In In Ukraine
However Richard Haass agrees with him. Time to attempt one thing new.
Haass responded to Scarborough (emphasis added), “That’s exactly the right question, Joe. What concerns me is when people get disillusioned and increasingly come to the — where you and I are, that as desirable as it is, it’s simply not feasible. They’re going to increasingly say, and we’re hearing it in the House, we’re hearing it in parts of Europe, why should we keep doing this? We’re already stressed. We’re trying to support Israel. We’re worried about Taiwan.”
Haass’s subsequent line was: “Even if we give everything we need to give or want to give to Ukraine, it still won’t lead to success.”
Scarborough would have accused him of being in Putin’s pocket a yr in the past if he had uttered that very same sentence.
Haass continued, “What I argue, therefore, is the United States needs to have some very direct conversations with Ukraine, with President Zelensky. Talk about reducing their emphasis on liberating land and put emphasis onto holding what they’ve got.”
Speaking as a substitute of prolonging an countless battle without end.
It’s wonderful nobody ever considered that earlier than.
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